It might be cooling down in Brisbane, but on the other side of the world Martha Wainwright is enjoying a little piece of New York spring.
“We’re having a beautiful spring and I have a garden, so I’ve been trying to put stuff in just in time to leave,” Wainwright says down the phone line from her Brooklyn home. “I always think of myself as a spring person, because I was born in May. And I like to see things not too hot or too cold, so I’m always happy in spring.”
It’s nice to find Wainwright in good spirits. 2012 saw the release of ‘Come Home To Mama’, her third studio LP and one that told of abject pain and reckoning. Through song, Wainwright covered the troubled, premature birth of her son, Arcangelo, and the 2010 death of her mother, iconic Canadian folk singer-songwriter, Kate McGarrigle.
The album wasn’t a hit, but found plenty of traction with critics and fans who fell for Wainwright’s gentle and often gently humorous take on her struggles. Now, she’s preparing to take the record on the road, flying to Australia at the end of the month for a series of shows around the country.
“We’ve had a month off and I love being home, but I do crave a hotel room,” Wainwright says, laughing at herself. “And room service and knowing exactly where I have to be at what time and what is expected of me, and putting my all into the performance and meeting the audience and signing autographs. I like that.”
With ‘Come Home To Mama’ being such a personal record, you might think it makes it difficult to take these songs on the road. But Wainwright explains that each cut has to a certain extent outgrown the album and take on a life of its own.
“They’re different to when you first write them,” she says. “That said, when I write them I try to create a song that stands alone as a work of art and a powerful piece of music. When you play music live with musicians or solo, it’s like a physical job. You can get into it. You do the best that you can with your instrument and it requires a lot of brain function. And that’s really what you’re riding on – you’re riding on the music, closing your eyes and doing a good version of it.
“People have sung the same songs over and over again millions of times. That doesn’t detract from their power, hopefully, and I think that’s an indication of whether the song is well crafted. Some songs I’ve been doing for a long time now and some songs I still do, and that’s probably a testament to the song.”
For the shows, Wainwright will be playing with her husband Brad Albetta on bass, as well as a drummer and keyboardist. The intention is to flesh out ‘Come Home To Mama’ in the live setting but also dip into some standards and her popular Edith Piaf covers. But as much as she loves it, touring isn’t going to be as easy as it used to be for Wainwright, now that she has a son to consider.
“It’s going to be the real challenge for me in the future – being able to ‘have it all’ where women are not allowed to have a career and a family. I’m sure I won’t be able to play as much as I would have, and I’ll miss days of Arc’s school. But I have to be able to do both, there’s no question. And I have to be able to dedicate myself to both, and I know there’s a way.”
After Australia it’s more touring as Wainwright tackles the northern festival season. But even that comes with its challenges these days. Playing live is where musicians make their money in 2013 – as opposed to album sales – but Wainwright says she’s beginning to see signs of cracks in the new model.
“A lot of people are on the road. There’s a glut – that’s what I’ve heard. In fact, I would say people’s guarantees are down and attendances are low in a lot of places in Europe. Also, there are so many shows.
“It’s actually created an interesting situation, but I don’t have any other skill sets,” she laughs. “I sort of have to go out there and hope for the best and grab the guitar and fight for dinner money.”
And has she started writing again just yet?
“It’s harder now,” Wainwright says. “Because any time of mine that is free I obviously like to spend with my child or with home stuff: gardening, painting, cleaning, all that kind of stuff … But I think the songs, as they always have, will reflect that change.”
Martha Wainwright kicks off her Australian Tour at The Tivoli on May 31.
Seth Sentry may not have been looking for fame, but fame found him in 2013.
The Melbourne MC is coming off the end of a huge summer following the release of his debut album, ‘This Was Tomorrow’, and its clutch of high-rotation singles, ‘My Scene’, ‘Float Away’ and ‘Dear Science’. A trip to the United States for South by Southwest and a performance on Triple J’s One Night Stand have followed, squaring the ledger somewhat for time passed since the release of his ‘The Waiter Minute’ EP in late 2008.
But there were numerous points during that four year break when ‘This Was Tomorrow’ wasn’t going to happen, Sentry spooked by the raging success of his breakthrough single, ‘The Waitress Song’.
“The album did die a number of times,” he explains over the phone from his Melbourne home. “Because I was going to quit rap and I had all sorts of crazy thoughts. I just lost momentum after the EP and I didn’t know what to do and it scared me so much how well ‘The Waitress Song’ did. I made this little five track EP and that song did so well, and even ‘Simple Game’ off the same record started getting played on Nova and shit. That was bizarre. It just terrified me. I didn’t really know what to do after that.”
‘The Waitress Song’ hadn’t even been intended for release, which in Sentry’s mind drove home how much of a happy accident it had all been.
“We were going to scrap it,” he says. “So it was like, ‘Fuck, that was a fluke’. And then I thought, ‘I’m never doing music again because that was terrifying’. Eventually I just had to go back to writing songs that I wanted to hear about things that I wanted to write about and not over think it too much.”
But it perhaps didn’t feel like four years between Seth Sentry projects. As he somewhat harshly puts it, he “got lucky” with appearances on a 360 mixtape and a tour with Horrorshow, for which he penned a new cut – ‘Our Song’ – with the Sydney duo.
“That just happened to get picked up by Triple J and played a lot. So little things just kept me around enough for people to give a shit. But in 2012 I just ramped it up and went hard on the album. Because people set deadlines on me, and once I had the deadline there I thought, ‘Fuck, I’ve gotta do it now’. And it worked. I got really creative. I was working fast, but it felt like a lot of good stuff was coming out of it.”
The album was finally released in September and met with rapturous reviews by critics. If the subsequent summer has been Sentry getting used to the idea that he may be a legitimate artist, then it’s also been about adjusting to music as a fulltime job.
“It’s been a good transition, really,” he says. “It’s always been something I’ve done in my free time and a little bit of hobby, and since September it’s been fulltime … 100 percent, that’s surprised me. I never thought it was a viable option to become a career or something. It’s just something that I do because I enjoy it, and I still really enjoy it. I feel like I’m cheating.
“There have been little downtimes, but there’s always something coming up, or something in the not-to-distant future that I’m gearing up for. Which is good: I had four years of doing fuck all, so it’s about time,” he laughs.
Since our interview, Sentry has returned from a short tour in North America during which he visited both South by Southwest in Texas and Canadian Music Week in Toronto, as well as playing a clutch of smaller shows throughout the rest of the continent. The undoubted highlight, though, was his win in the SXSW Dorito Boldstage competition, which means Sentry will support LL Cool J on the LA-based rap legend’s June-July US tour. It’s a small sign of the potential for penetration Australian rap music has in an American market, although when we spoke to him Sentry wasn’t totally convinced the local genre is prepared to make the final leap.
“Maybe. I think the thing about Australian rap – and I know Chuck D said this – we’re still really focussed on the lyrics here and we have that skill set with our raps. That’s opposed to a lot of the more mainstream stuff in America: there’s still a massive underground scene there, but in the mainstream that’s been lost a little bit – it’s glossy and your swagger and all that stuff. Here, we don’t have the greatest voices and we haven’t got the best accent, but we focus hard on getting our flow right and the lyrics, the content.”
Indeed, while many remain concerned about the isolationism of local hip hop culture, Sentry doesn’t regard it as being a total negative, pointing out that it allowed the Australian genre to develop its own sound and differentiate itself from the music coming out of the US.
“It’s been kinda good doing that,” he says. “At the start, a lot of the acts who were big were really Americanised, and we adopted whatever the American trends were at the time. People were trying to put on American accents and stuff, and I think it’s been a nice little break away from that. We do our own thing and have our own sound happening now with a unique style. But I do think people get a little lost in that sometimes, and pick a particular era or sound from America and say, ‘That’s hip hop and we’re refusing to budge from that’. Which I think can be a little unhealthy as well.”
Much more practical concerns are now on Sentry’s agenda, with the ‘Dear Science’ tour set to check in at major centres around mainland Australia.
“Originally it was going to be the ‘Room For Rent’ tour,” he laughs, “but now it’s the ‘Dear Science’ tour. Because we didn’t pitch ‘Dear Science’ as a single – it’s just all been really organic, which has been awesome. Triple J started playing ‘Dear Science’ without ever announcing it as officially being on rotation. They just started playing it and the song did pretty well, so now it’s the ‘Dear Science’ tour.
“I’m taking my DJ, B2, who’s an Australian DMC champ. I think he came sixth in the world in terms of the championships. He’s very good, he’s overqualified! And supporting will be Tuka and Ellesquire. Once I’ve finished my tour, I’m going to take a little break. By then the new ‘Bioshock’ game should be well and truly out. I’ll play the shit out of that and then maybe another tour or two later this year.”
Five years ago Urthboy was beginning to worry about the future of the music business.
At Elefant Traks, the Sydney-based independent hip hop record label he helped co-found, the internet was beginning to bite and sales of physical product were losing traction. Life on the indie frontline looked bleak.
But cut to early 2013 and everything’s changed. Elefant Traks are coming off one of the most successful years in the label’s history. 2012 delivered a breakthrough for Hermitude, the DJ project of Luke ‘Dubs’ Dubber and Angus ‘El Gusto’ Stuart — their fourth album ‘HyperParadise’ crossing over into the mainstream media – as well as the release of Urthboy’s own LP, ‘Smokey’s Haunt’, which itself went on to rack up the critical plaudits. By December, Elefant Traks seemed to be everywhere.
“2012 was a combination of lots of hard work and a few things going our way,” explains Urthboy, who in label guise is better known as Tim Levinson. “You’re working alongside artists like Hermitude for ten years before they really start to shake up a more mainstream audience, [and] when it finally does happen and you’re working behind the scenes alongside them, it’s really invigorating and just gives you that reassurance that, first of all, what we’re doing is worthwhile, and secondly, nice guys do finish first sometimes.”
Particularly satisfying was the AIR award for best label. Essentially, it meant other labels had been voting for Elefant Traks, acknowledging their achievements.
“That other labels think we’re doing a good job – that makes us all have a little bit more of a spring in our step when we’re working. But you reflect on those things and use it as a way of reinforcing your own belief in what you’re doing … I think the fact that we’re all invested in it and believe in what Elefant Traks is trying to do is a far greater incentive than all those things.”
And compared to the gloomy days half a decade ago? A lot of labels slipped under the waters, but Elefant Traks adapted and have since grown their business.
“Our digital ratio of sales is far higher than our physical now,” Urthboy explains. “So it seems that the audiences who embrace Elefant Traks have long since discarded physical product. So we’ve been close to those changes that have affected the industry and sometimes in a negative way. We have more staff rather than less, we have more projects to work on and we feel like there are more things out there that we haven‘t tried out yet. And our overheads – despite the fact that we’ve got more staff – are so low that we can move and adapt.”
As Elefant Traks’ stock has risen, so has Urthboy’s – but not just as an artist or businessman. His label’s thoughtful approach to rap music continues to draw followers, even when the smart money would be on the enlivening, widescreen hip hop of acts such as Hilltop Hoods, Bliss N Eso and 360. Elefant Traks artists aren’t afraid to sign their name to a cause, and as label head, Urthboy is often called upon to do the talking. So you have his appearance on ABC Television’s popular talk show ‘Q&A’ a couple of weeks ago – something he describes in encouraging tones as a learning experience.
“I’m all about getting involved and I feel sad for people who pull themselves out of a dialogue,” he says. “Each to their own: people can do what they like, but I’m just a personality that likes to get involved. I’m an empathetic person; I share the concerns I’ve had with my own career with my artists and the artists that I look after. I always come from that angle and want to get involved. And politics is no different: naturally we’re going to be a little rough around the edges and not be polished media players, but that’s OK. You’ve just got to keep that option open.”
It’s not often you meet an artist with such well resolved arguments on political and social current affairs. ‘Q&A’ obviously realised this, asking the rapper for a post panel performance of his song ‘Empire Tags’ – a plea for Australia to drop the Union Jack from the national flag – as opposed to current single ‘The Big Sleep’. Urthboy takes this public side to his personality seriously, but at the same time is wary of overkill.
“I performed ‘Empire Tags’ and at the end of it, because of the bushfires and floods around the country, I was shouting out to people affected by that stuff. And I was pointed to one of the main lobby groups for the monarchy over here, and a lot of their commentary was, ‘I cannot believe he blamed floods and fires on the Queen,’” he laughs. “I mean, God, what an advertisement for [having your] fucking head in the sand.
“I’m outspoken because I feel like life’s too short to play poker with this shit. But yeah, I do sometimes feel like the world doesn’t need me to put my opinion on everything. And from time-to-time I’ll have an awakening of, ‘Why would people want to hear my opinion on things?’ And I’ve got to be aware of that instinct to assume that what I’ve got to say is worth listening to. I think from time to time I need to reflect on it, so I just don’t assume … Quite often with interviews and issues where you’re called to make a comment, it’s a one-way street where you’re standing up and delivering your grandiose thoughts on the world. I don’t want to hear the same person talk about a whole bunch of different issues, so why would I want to be that person?”
Right now, though, Urthboy is thinking more about the art, and in particular the upcoming ‘Smokey’s Haunt’ national tour. It will be the first where he’s not on the road with El Gusto – Hermitude’s continued success now requiring the DJ’s fulltime attention.
“Replacing El Gusto was something I didn’t even want to explore,” he says, “so that’s how the band came up. If I can’t replace him, how do we actually go about it? We have to make the show better. Because that’s the premise.”
He quickly settled upon an idea he’d originally discussed with El Gusto: touring with a full band. And so beyond regular co-conspirator Jane Tyrrell, Urthboy will be packing an all new live show, including Lisa Purmodh on drums, Alex Dawson on keys and Last Kinection and Briggs’ regular, Jaytee, behind the decks. The excitement buzzes down the phone line.
“I don’t really feel pressure, apart from pulling off the songs in time for the show,” he says. “Maybe that’s pressure, but I don’t think of it in those terms. I definitely feel that you can’t get away with doing the same thing over and over again … Particularly when there are so many acts in the hip hop community – you can’t keep coming back and doing the same thing – it has to be a constant refresh and you have to present people with new ideas, offer them something new.”
Urthboy plays Sol Bar, Coolum, March 22 and The Zoo March 23.
There have been three and a half years since the release of Local Natives’ debut record, and three and a half years’ worth of changes.
The Los Angeles four-piece lost their bass player, Andy Hamm, while frontman Kelcey Ayer’s mother passed away in the summer of 2011. Beyond that, there was an almost endless series of tours, during which the band refined and evolved their craft. The result, finally, is sophomore LP, ‘Hummingbird’. Scene got on the phone to multi-instrumentalist Ryan Hahn to discuss the new album, recording in New York, the LA arts scene, and the band’s just announced May tour to Australia.
‘Hummingbird’ – released three and a half years after ‘Gorilla Manor’ in late 2009 – does it feel that long to you?
In some ways yes, in some ways no. We toured forever on that first record, and that has a weird way of warping time, you know (laughs). It flies by. And then we told ourselves that we weren’t going to release the next record until it’s ready. We just wanted to take our time with it and make sure whatever we were doing, we were really proud of. Now that we have it, now that it’s done, we just want to put it out immediately. I don’t know: I think we’re just ready to put it out there and get back on the road.
There seems to be a dichotomy developing, though. Albums are increasingly seen as ammunition for the live show, and yet there’s barely any time to stop these days and actually record an album. Fair call?
For us, the way we write and the kind of music we want to make, we really feel the need to get off the road, be still and focus. We love playing live, I think it’s our favourite part, but we put everything we learned over the last few years into this new record. So yeah – we wanted it to be something that could stand on its own and not, like you said, just be ammunition for touring.
Have you ever felt any pressure to write on the road?
Yeah. We do write as much as we can. But it’s just tough when you’re touring – the only moments you get where you don’t have to do anything, all you want to do is rest. It’s hard to write at soundcheck or write in the tour van. So it took us a while to get going once we got back and got our feet back on the ground. But once we got into the swing of things there was nine months of pure writing and demoing, and three months of recording.
The changes that came about with the new album – you have been through so much: you’ve done a truckload of touring, you lost Adam, and there’s been other personal stuff going on – how much of the change was premeditated, and how much just came out?
There was never any discussion: ‘This is what the record’s going to sound like’. We’d grown a lot and we didn’t want to repeat ourselves – I think that was maybe the only thing we discussed: ‘Let’s not just do ‘Gorilla Manor Version 2’. We just wanted to push ourselves and try new things and not be afraid to take some chances and branch out. It felt really good. It felt like we were where we needed to be.
What was the intention behind going across country to Brooklyn to record?
People talk about this album being a New York thing, but we actually wrote the whole thing in LA. We found ourselves a rehearsal spot and spent hours every day writing and demoing. Then, when it was time to record, I think that’s when we thought about trying to get away from all the distractions in the city and focus on the record – and we went to New York where there are plenty of distractions (laughs). But we almost wanted to go back to the first record when we were living together and just purely focussing on making music. That was the thought process.
I know you guys found the split with Andy hard. Writing and recording without Andy – did it change things much?
I think we’ve always been such a collaborative band, and me, Taylor [Rice, guitarist] and Kelcey have always been the songwriters. It is always super hard to lose a band member – we operate very much like a family – but we’d grown apart over the last few years together. There was the four of us going one way, the other not wanting to go, and it was just tough. But now, I feel like it’s been for the best and I really do honestly feel like we’re happier than ever and that we’re a stronger band than we’ve ever been.
Would you guys consider moving to Brooklyn permanently? It’s pretty much where every young Australian wants to go, as opposed to LA.
I don’t know. It’s pretty crazy: we’ve toured so much now, we’ve seen so much of the world, it’s been really amazing. But every time we come home we’re like, ‘Oh yeah, this is why we live here’. It’s just so awesome. We really feel like Los Angeles is home. Being in New York was cool, but I’ll always take LA over New York.
Talking about LA – it feels like there’s a rejuvenation going on there, though, where people are once again recognising its value to the arts. There was a time when it was painted as just film stars and fake breasts. Does it feel pretty vibrant there artistically at the moment?
It really does. It’s tough to pinpoint a scene or whatever. But I just think that you come out to LA and it just feels like there is a sense of people doing creative things. You walk around our neighbourhood and everyone’s working hard with their art: it might be music, or acting, or they’re making films. It does feel like there’s a creative atmosphere out here and it feels nice to be a part of that.
First the LP release, and now the tour. You’re in Australia in May – what do you remember about the last time you were here?
It was such a fun tour. Laneway was awesome – you’re just hanging out with friends in different bands, travelling with them – that was such a cool vibe. And we had a lot of days just to walk around and hang out in the cities. In a lot of ways it felt like California: sunshine and friendly people. We’re really looking forward to going back. I think we have it circled on the calendar. We’re looking forward to it.
And the rest of the year?
It just goes and goes and goes. We’ll be touring and doing festival season in the north and playing shows right up until December. Hopefully, just growing the live show and developing new things.
‘Hummingbird’ Is Out Now. Local Natives Play The Zoo May 19.
Dismantle Plays Coniston Lane Thursday December 6.
In the early years of the local genre, before widespread radio support, crews from the three southern cities would travel back and forth along the Hume, Western and Duke Highways, coalescing around each other in the studio and on the stage, feeding the exponential growth of their respective scenes.
By comparison, Brisbane – an exhausting 12-hour drive up the winding Highway 1 from Sydney – was a town too far. It meant early crews like the Resin Dogs had to not only clock ridiculous miles to get noticed, but they had to innovate too.
It’s strange to think that the isolation continues in the digital age. Brisbane’s wider music scene is now plugged directly into the national zeitgeist, but hip hop continues – to a certain extent, at least – to run in its own lane.
“Brisbane is a little bit isolated from the rest of the country,” says MC Brother Beans of Scripted Dialects. “Rainman’s starting to make it, and Pete [Yuin Huzami] from The Coalition Crew really made a few heads stick up, and then of course you have The Optimen. But I really feel like there’s a lot of people on a certain tip – like us and KryptamistiK – where the quality’s there, but we’re perhaps not getting noticed. But we’ve sort of gotten used to that, and we just do it.”
Beans speaks from the unique perspective of both musician and label man. By day he’s Rupert Faust, owner of Beanstalk Records, and over the last year he’s been busy making a name for himself around town pushing not only the work of Dialects, but also label mates KryptamistiK, Quorum Consensus and The Rusty Datsuns.
“That’s just the nature of the game … it is what it is and we just keep doing what we’re doing. And in a sense it really works, because it drives us to try and come up with cooler shit to make people take notice.”
That right-angled, DIY aesthetic runs right through Scripted Dialects’ long-awaited debut LP, ‘Word Travels’. The crew of Beans, Philosopheyes, and Supervised had already kicked off work on a longplayer when they released their debut EP back in 2009. But a combination of artistic ambition and shifting studio time ate into the early momentum.
“We finished writing the album in 2010 and we were looking at somewhere to record, and then we went with Space Ghost Studios and Samsonite from The Optimen, but he couldn’t fit us in until the end of 2010 – we got some time with him then, and then in [early] 2011.”
The recording would stretch well into 2011, but further plans to have Samsonite mix the LP were iced when his own side project, Bankrupt Billionaires, suddenly gained traction on the national scene. Eventually, Scripted settled on Omegachild Productions to mix the LP.
“It’s been a long process, to say the least,” Faust laughs. “We’re hanging for it to be out. We’re more than ready.”
The excitement is understandable. Beans is chatting down the phone line from Cairns, where Scripted Dialects are about to play the first of a series of ‘Word Travels’ launch dates. The crew will be back in Brisbane this weekend to give local fans a taste of the album, as well as helm Beanstalk Records first birthday bash. It’s all going down at Coniston Lane, and promises to be a righteous night out.
“The label was a long time coming. Even when we were doing the EP, I was thinking about it … Then it all started in December with the Rusty Datsuns EP, which is still going really well. Ever since, it’s been a release every three months, except for doubling up October and November with KryptamistiK, and then this month Scripted Dialects. It’s about bringing that spearhead into the industry, and if everyone’s consolidating in terms of getting music out there, that’s great.
“Everybody’s going to do their set on the night and then we’ll have a big jam towards the end of the show. I’ve got another project called Choon Goonz where we loop up samples and so on, and that’s always good to facilitate a larger jam session. And of course it doubles as a launch for Scripted, so it’s a celebration also. We’ve all been working pretty hard this last year, so it’ll be great to have a bit of a shindig.”
Scripted Dialects Launch Their New Album, ‘Word Travels’, As Part Of The Beanstalk Birthday Bonanza, Saturday November 24.